Copper Cables: While they are high in demand for green circuits, they are used in almost nothing else. by Rjskeet Thu Jan 10, 2019 1:55 am, Post In Factorio, having a main bus is an advantage, however it must be well-designed to make sure that it could be used properly and efficiently. All trademarks are property of their respective owners in the US and other countries. Blue belt can transport 40 items per second fully compressed. We have located 2 bus terminals and one bus stop in Hamburg. The Steam Community of Rust shared some insights on how to design and build your main bus. I dont make any two buses identical unless Im following a blueprint for some starter base. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. Place assemblers in a grid-like pattern as shown, adding belts, inserters, and power poles. Any arbitrary amount of input belts should be able to go to any arbitrary amount of output belts. But when you discover the most important ones, you'll eventually have a grasp on it. There is no real right answer just whatever works best for your set up. A corner is not unheard of but very unusual and is often only necessary when a lake appears that is not planned for. This item will only be visible to you, admins, and anyone marked as a creator. In this particular case, the bottleneck can be fixed by feeding the two middle output belts with more splitters. Done! The following are two designs for a split-off off a 4-wide bus that feature an in-line lane-balancer(by reddit user /u/moomaka). Neatness matters! Do you want your bus to be big enough for 1 rocket but no more, or what is the maximum width you plan on using? Universal balancers solve this issue by having the back-looping built in. Copenhagen, Hamburg Add more production to fill your belts with intermediate products: Copper & Iron Plate, Steel, Green Circuits, etc. For n n balancers where n is a power of two numbers, nlog2(n)n2 can be used to calculate how many splitters are needed. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. This page was last edited on 23 November 2020, at 11:18. One downside to this can be that all resources are used up before every machine gets fed. The reason I asked about what a main bus should have is because I am rebuilding my base from scratch. What should I put on my new main bus and how many belts of each item? I still need to put skynet back in =P. Belt balancers utilize the mechanic that splitters output items in a 1:1 ratio onto both their output belts. Hamburg, Lviv Some people build these assemblies off to the side, or transport these products by train as they run out of space near the beginnings of their factory. Valve Corporation. 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For a comparison of belt, logistic robot and railway transport systems, refer to the Transport use cases tutorial. When you purchase Click here to open location in google maps. What are the most popular bus routes from Hamburg? https://wiki.factorio.com/index.php?title=Tutorial:Main_bus&oldid=182000. Most likely you will need dedicated iron/copper smelting for green circuit production since so many things take them. by Trebor Thu Jan 10, 2019 5:14 am, Post Espaol - Latinoamrica (Spanish - Latin America), http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=661582295, https://www.reddit.com/r/factorio/comments/4d3per/belt_balancer_compendium/, Red Circuits (Advanced Circuits) x1 (recommend x2). Place Assemblers: 1 crafting Iron Gear Wheels, 6-8 making Red Science. The bottleneck in this balancer is that the two middle belts only get input from one splitter. Green & blue circuits share a line going in. Hamburg, Kolding Hamburg, Siauliai I tried using next-level products (i.e. Using iron plates as index 100: Copper: 78 Steel: 7 Plastic: 15 Coal: 13 Iron Gear: 6 Electronic Circuit: 38 Advanced Circuit: 6 Stone Brick: 2 Note that this is for science only. 6 years later and you still respond to almost each and every person. Hamburg, Giessen - Mechanical Throughput Magic (circuit-free), Frequently Suggested / Link Collections. I wouldn't go over 4 belts for anything, you can pull off easily and rebalance 4 belts. Please see the. Place Assemblers: 1 crafting Iron Gear Wheels, 1 each for belts and assemblers, then 8-10 for Green Science. I usually go for KatherineOfSky's bus, especially in vanilla or slightly modified vanilla play, which is this: My own personal Factorio super-power - running out of power. Just found you on Youtube last year. These start out as iron chests, upgrade to Passive Providers, then to Requesters as earlier belts are phased out. Place another belt along the output side of the assemblers. For the belt close to the assembler, split off half a lane of iron plates. http://www.doomeer.com/factorio/#1132bbbbbbbbbbrrgrrrrrgrrrgrgrrrrrrrrrgrrrrrrB10rB12rB24rrrrgrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrA1rrrA1rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. Alternatively, one can make split-off setups without priority splitters. 2 iron, 2 copper, 1 red circuits, half and half blue/batteries, 2 plastic, green circuits, 2 steel. Instead, I have a decentralized system where separate modular areas have inputs/outputs delivered/retrieved by train. It is advisable to leave space between the groups of belts of one item for underground belt to surface and for other things to cross the bus. Some items are a good candidate to be built "on-site" meaning not carried by the bus but rather made where they are needed. For green circuitsi never go more than two for my starter base. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. Make sure to leave room for a lubricant pipe to feed the blue belt assemblers. Thanks for this! Groningen, Hamburg Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. Balancers are used to evenly distribute items over multiple belts or multiple belt lanes. The split-offs shown above generally prefer setups near the start of the main bus but will also supply some limited materials to the later setups. And instead of rebalancing you can use priority splitters. by Aeternus Fri Jan 11, 2019 2:54 pm, Post That means that a splitter connected to two input belts will evenly distribute those items onto the the two output belts. Place Concrete or Stone Brick under a couple lanes of your bus & in one of the spaces between lanes (at a minimum) since it gives you a speed boost when running. Use your imagination to design your factory, combine simple elements into ingenious structures, apply management skills to keep it working and finally protect it from the creatures who don't really like you.Join forces with other players in cooperative Multiplayer, create huge factories, collaborate and delegate tasks between you and your friends. The output from putting them on something like green circuits feels impressive because of the output from so few assemblers, but it's much more effective to multiply blues, then reds, before greens! Oldenburg, Hamburg With splitter priorities that were added in 0.16 it is very simple to split off a belt from a main bus while ensuring good throughput properties. This indicates not enough products being produced to meet demand, this can be remedied with adding more lanes with corresponding more production further up the chain of production. What bus companies operate the routes starting from Hamburg? What is your definition of "main line bus" ? These balancers can balance evenly between any inputs and any outputs. Hamburg. is the fix to just have much larger grid sizes to account for the wait platforms? EDIT: Here is an example of what I call a stage 2 "starter" base. steel, copper cable, iron gear wheel) but it gets way too complicated to belt weave and it winds up making more sense to having dedicated assemblers for each of their end products. I tend to only use main busses when bootstrapping up a large train-based base so just iron, copper, steel, green circuits, and maybe gears. spaghetti for everything else. While the core gameplay is in the form of the freeplay scenario, there are a range of interesting challenges in the form of the Scenario pack, available as free DLC. Same with the production that is to the side of the bus, leave space between the builds for later expansion or belts that go between, at least three, six to ten is fitting. This can be done to reserve room for later expansion, blueprint-ghosts are a good usage for that as they don't allow the belt to be filled with non-usable items. To balance belts it has to be made sure that the output belts contain an equal number of items from each input belt. The 4 line meta comes from a time of fixed underground lengths and the need for even balancer sizes. I agree with Hedning, that it depends on whether you want to launch one satellite and then say "game over" (and start over), or continue on, and see how many satellites you can launch, and build a mega-base! Reason being is to have 4 belts of green circuits at full power requires 6 belts of copper and 4 belts if iron. Make sure to watch through for all the little details!Download the save and see more info for the base in the reddit post here: https://www.reddit.com/r/factorio/comments/mef5ui/my_first_megabase_5200k_spm_beltbus/Stay up to date with new releases by Subscribing.Support The Channel On Patreon: http://www.patreon.com/Xterminator5Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/xterminator5Discord Group: https://discord.gg/0rIlqgn3wPmrmtWmMy Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/Xterminator5My Website (Blueprints, Mod Lists, \u0026 More! I was pleasantly surprised when I saw you were behind this. Your resources still come from a mine somewhere, so your bus will get thinned out after a while even with balancing. Comati PSG Zentral-Omnibus-Bahnhof Bus terminal, Hamburg, Comati PSG Zentral-Omnibus-Bahnhof Bus terminal. Main reason I run a 4/2/2 bus for my start base is that it allows me to produce continuously produce a SP3 and PM3 module in yellow assemblers and still have enough resources for 10/12/24 science in blue assemblers. It includes all the methods you need to take the designs and blueprints from the beginning on constructing your main bus, all the way up to using it to gain the advantage. You need to sign in or create an account to do that. I kinda disagree on steel. You could be the first review for Hamburg Legion Lanes. Hmm I was doing 2 lines for green 1 each for blue and red and i also space my lines 4 spaces apart for all my fluids and a litter needs. Balancers also use the mechanic that splitters take an equal amount of items from both input belts. There are also over 200 trains on the map.Overall a very impressive and extremely satisfying base, both visually and with its huge and efficient production capabilities. The easiest way to do a two-material split off is to start with the position of the belt near the assembler, and work backwards. by CJ5Boss Thu Jan 10, 2019 2:40 pm, Post A throughput limited universal balancer may only have the capacity for a few unused outputs. Creating a train grid factory. The concept of a Main Bus is to put the most used and useful ingredients in a central spot to use for assembling machines. Yet! it really stacks up over the 5/6 process steps to make a rocket. Cookie Notice Keep the main bus, build your new base close to it. (I normally skip red belts and go straight to blue to save myself the annoyance of replacing the bus 2 times). Watching the trains move through the junction is so satisfying and mesmerizing! For me my last base that could launch three rockets every half hour had 4 belts iron, 4 belts copper, 2 belts green (but was starting to bottleneck, should have built 4 lanes green), 2 belts steel (from its own supply of iron ore and smelting, i.e. Post - I've had many playthroughs of the vanilla and mildly modded factorio but until now have consisted of main bus's of ingredients and trains that only bring ores from long distances to feed the fires. Using a non-prioritizing split-off will only distribute the shortage, not magically create more production. Espaol - Latinoamrica (Spanish - Latin America). The direction of a bus, being horizontal or vertical depends on personal preference and how one likes to work on the production that splits off it, which can almost always be expanded for greater use later on. The concept of a Main Bus is to put the most used and useful ingredients in a central spot to use for assembling machines. This is sometimes done to get Items crafted into a chest for personal use like pipe which only uses Iron plates. Valve Corporation. - However, each triangular base section is an entire huge main bus! For the belt furthest from the assembler, split off green circuits. This can lead to designs of a base consisting of only train-stations with small logistic networks without any belts. you can reduce the number of belts needed on the bus by dedicating production to the intermediates (typically the green circuit requirements for other circuits). And the character saw they that they were good and that they would help him on his quest to get to end-game. This page was last edited on 31 August 2020, at 10:02. - Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. Some people like to have fluids part of their bus which could include: Having all possible items on a bus results in a huge wide bus with a lot of belt-buffer for expensive items and standing belts of output-items that won't get used in another process. How many main bus lines do you generally use? Really quite unique in my opinion.The factory utilizes 2-8 single length single headed trains for the raw material transportation. Bowling. For the belt furthest from the assembler, split off copper plates. Input balanced lane balancers draw evenly from each side of the input belt, while output balanced lane balancers output evenly onto each lane of the output belt. - Place inserters as per screenshot -- only inserters need long-arms. Now red belt can span 6 tiles, which is pretty good for parts of the bus. Once you can expand them in Factorio, you may put one of the green and red circuit builds each, alongside the blue processors, modules, science, and steel smelting. Glad you found it useful! First of all, you'll need to think of the best area in where to put it. Hamburg, Copenhagen and our Belt Balancers - how they work and how to make them, Finding balance: A guide to belt balancers, https://wiki.factorio.com/index.php?title=Balancer_mechanics&oldid=183149. Do you just want to finish the game, or do you plan on continuing after the rocket? Belt balancers utilize the mechanic that splitters output items in a 1:1 ratio onto both their output belts. This is done by adding two more splitters at the end of the balancer, as it can be seen here: However most balancers' bottlenecks can't be solved as easily. https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/ =754378586. As others have said the main bus simply acts as a buffer - remember that it's not your resource pool. Assembly lines are best placed so that they run perpendicular to the Main Bus. If a universal balancer is throughput limited, the bottleneck may be in the loops or the balancer itself. Berlin, Hamburg If what you're going for is launching one satellite (beating the game) and researching all techs (for the achievement), in my experience you don't really need a "full" bus.

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